@lookslikelemona wrote:
Update:
I received an email last night telling me that TeamViewer believe me!
(literally, thats what they said!)
So I'm back to a working personal use license again.
Bit of a blip.
How long did it take between your contacting them and their reply?
I saw a reference earlier in this thread about "up to 30 days" to resolve these issues. It really feels like Teamviewer is more or less arbitrarily cutting off many of their long-time free users.
The way they are doing this, with no warning, might be giving some insight into Teamviewer's business strategy as well as their business ethics, if that's not an oxymoron. At least when **Third Party Product** did this a few years ago they had the balls to simply announce they were shutting down their free option. Maybe that's where we're headed here, but judging by the activity in this thread, the way they're doing it seems likely to be generating significant ill will toward the company. That can't be good.
Of course, it could be a glitch in their commercial-use-detection algorithm, but I wouldn't bet on it...
Owen.
why do I get a message saying that I'm using the application for commercial uses while I don't?!
This is getting very annoying! I assume they are just trying to pester to get a license purchase.
I also have the same problem
I'm suddenly getting this error as well.
I tried to connect to my son's computer to fix a driver issue and it terminated the connection after 30 seconds stating I was using the free version inside of a professional network.
This is ridiculous.
Hello, I use teamviewer for many years, to help my family or some of my friends. For several months I have the message that tells me that I use teamviewer professionally, but it is not the case. I use it from my office to connect to my pc at home. Since 2 weeks I can only connect 30 seconds and after I have a message that tells me that the session will cut because the time maximum is exceeded.Evemment it asks me to move to the pro version ... I have always praised this program with my companies some of which have adopted but I begin to ask me the question of returning to **Third Party Product** because the policy of forced buying is starting to become very disturbing at teamviewer.
Hi Own
I didn't get an email, it just started working after more than 30 days.
This is a very arrogant and condescending way of treating loyal users. Why does the management do this? They behave like seasoned drug pushers, giving free samples, and when you are hooked, they raise the prices. Or seen to many "Wall Street movies". "Greed is good".
To quote one of the many comments of this behavior of top management:
"The behavior is so bad I have just recommended to three of my customer who DO use team viewer commercially that they switch to go to assist - taking approx. 3000 licenses with them - and I've done this because I'm so disgusted at how TV is treating its free users."
Now that TV is up and working, I may still use Any Desk since I got used to it and it works very well.
Hy,
I am having the same problem. I use TeamViewer for managing my pc located in my other house, but now I can only connect to it for 1-2 minutes. Is there a way to use it like before, with no time limit?
Thank you.
Since today, I have the same problem. If I start the connection, I get the message "You use it for commercial" and after 1-2 Minutes, the connection will be break and blocked for 10 Minutes :-(
Why? I use TV private for checking my mails or help my wife with outlook or start my son a game. I would also pay for private using, but not so much as commercial using.
This morning, for the first time in the many years I've used TeamViewer for personal use while also recommending it for commercial use. I encountered the same problem. TeamViewer incorrectly and unreliably disconnected my remote session, claiming the software seemed to be in commercial use. That is incorrect. TeamViewer also incorrectly believes that my antivirus software is out of date. I've used TeamViewer for years and need a reliable personal connection method between my smartphone, desktop and laptop. I will now shop for a different software as TeamViewer just became unreliable.
Hello,
Same thing here... Using it for just family and friends no matter the computer, I have been marked as Commercial Usage which make that the connections only last 5 minutes...
I have just texted to the following link to turn my account clean again: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/support/personal-use-verification/?_ga=2.12725431.1271782355.152993032...
Hope I get answered soon...
Regards
Guille
TeamViewer quotes a 30-day response time in their personal license inquiry website window, to turn around their reply to requests to again grant personal licenses. I didn't hold my breath ;-)
I'm a former professional LAN architect and administratror. These days for personal use I have a desktop, a laptop and smartphone. Today, in around an hour's time I've accomplished these things:
1.) I looked at software reviews on the web, and especially in iTunes and on PC magazine's website, for remote desktop connection software which works easily with both iOS and PCs, and,
2.) Chrome Remote Desktop is both free and easy to use. It accepted a multi-digit PIN which RoboForm tells me has 132-bit security. I've already tested Chrome Remote Desktop successfully between my iPhone 7 running iOS 11.x and my PC desktop. In one sense it actually worked more easily and smoothly than TeamViewer's somewhat fiddly command interface: pinch, swipe and touch controls worked easily and intuitively.
I'm now done with TeamViewer. I very much appreciated using it for around 15 years for personal use, and enjoyed that their company used to be smart about how they made their money from large-scale commercial use. But they have clearly changed. Just like Secunia eventually failed to have a working personal patch software.
Now, onward, upward, and happily :-)
I just got this. I'm using it on my home computers, only within my home, I own no "commercial" business, I'm a student. Now all of a sudden, after years of using it, teamviewer says i'm commercial and won't let me use it. I guess it's time to switch back to **Third Party Product**. Whoever you have snooping and determining something going on is commerical is off their rocker. But fine.
Same here, apparently I am suddenly on a ""buisness network"" when sat at home trying to help my elderly father!
Same problem, I was on a guest network at the hospital were I was visittting, is this so wide spread that everyone is included?
Hopefully not to long before this will be cleared. Though no helping others untill this is cleared. 5 min, is actually somewhere areound 30 sec til 60 sec.
I have the same issue!
They advertise FREE for non business use. Apparently they have decided to raise income by blocking users like you and me. I am retired and only help people without charging them. Team Viewer has decided I am a business. Not true! We should investigate and/or seek legal advice regarding a class action law suit to force them to quit advertising FREE use for users like you and me plus many others OR cease and desist from blocking us. **bleep** 7/9/2018
@liounite wrote:
Hello, I use teamviewer for many years, to help my family or some of my friends. For several months I have the message that tells me that I use teamviewer professionally, but it is not the case. I use it from my office to connect to my pc at home. Since 2 weeks I can only connect 30 seconds and after I have a message that tells me that the session will cut because the time maximum is exceeded.Evemment it asks me to move to the pro version ... I have always praised this program with my companies some of which have adopted but I begin to ask me the question of returning to **Third Party Product** because the policy of forced buying is starting to become very disturbing at teamviewer.
Same problem for me.
I used the link suggested some post before:
I have just texted to the following link to turn my account clean again: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/support/personal-use-verification/?_ga=2.12725431.1271782355.152993032...
Hope they will answer and solve the problem sonn.
Javier
How is [Removed by moderator ]? Does it have the same features as TeamViewer? Actual free license for personal use?
Well, it seems we're all in the same boat. It's time to switch to[Removed by moderator]
[Removed by moderator]
TeamViewer are watching this forum, and don't care to have other products pointed out which they feel will compete with theirs. I just discovered this from TeamViewer's board admin:
"Your post has been removed
Hello, Thank you for your contributions. I wanted to let you know I had to remove a recent post of yours, as it violated the Community Guidelines. Per the guidelines, we do not allow rumors or hearsay posted on the forum: 9. Sales/solicitation policy This is a TeamViewer forum. Please do not post links to or promote third party or competitor software. Please do not advertise to sell any product or service to anyone and check your links before".
TeamViewer is now trying to keep the lid on a pot which is boiling over. Their software has been removed from all my machines, and they can now expect that I will be passing the word to my network admin professional friends, and that we might start posting about their significant company problems on websites they don't own.
Hello,
My teamviTeam told me that I use it in a professional way ... Which is obviously false. What can I do to solve this problem?
Best regards.
Hello
I have the same problem since yesterday. I opend a ticket by the support team. I hope it will fixed soon
Same here,
I don't know what TeamViewer is planning with their users, but it's frustrating.
I wish they'd sort it out soon!
I don't get it. Didn't they realize yet the problem? Or is the idea to make non-professional users pay, since it's the easiest/quickest way out of the problem? Personally I can wait a bit... but I can only guess the fan base they are losing :(
Support on Facebook tell me that i use a Commecrial. But i only use Free, I think TV doesnt know about the problems .... Facebook Team wrote me i have to Kontakt the Support. But i have no time to wait 30 days for a answer
Yeah, I hope they solve this problem soon it is quite annoying
Hi,
after completed the form Why do I see 'Commercial use suspected' / 'Commercial use detected' with logs of my usage, it was about 2 weeks ago, I got an answer yesterday saying that my ID has been set to private.
Now, everything is working like before, no more disconnection after 30s-1mn.
Thank you.
Be patient.
Regards
2 Weeks to solve the Problem ? Great LOL
please help someone
I love how someone recommended a piece of software which the free version can't touch administrative programs (won't let you interact with them) and stated we should pay $60 for it when this ENTIRE thread is intended for those that are using the FREE version of Teamviewer. Some people.
First off, do you really need remote software that badly? If it's for non-commercial use, why are you not able to be patient for the ~30 days for the account to be reset to private?
Seeing as someone withing the last few days got their account properly set to private again once the time hit 33 days after they submitted the form, I think it's safe to say that TV IS listening. Just be patient. I will wait until I get my account is set up properly, even though I do need it normally during the week for emergency things to manage my home network.
hi everybody, sorry for bad english, i'm french.
I experience the same problem and i find a solution.
I wrote a post explaining this solution, but it was removed because it promotes third party or competitor software.
I understand, this is a TV forum. So I'll just wrote the end of my post: i'm very hungry against TV and their new politic. They have many way to let a free TV existing (as restrain the connexion to a number of connexion/day, or client, etc.) but the way they blocked us is really poor way.
I hope i've the right to say that i leave TV for greener meadows.
@macshane wrote:hi everybody, sorry for bad english, i'm french.
I experience the same problem and i find a solution.
I wrote a post explaining this solution, but it was removed because it promotes third party or competitor software.
I understand, this is a TV forum. So I'll just wrote the end of my post: i'm very hungry against TV and their new politic. They have many way to let a free TV existing (as restrain the connexion to a number of connexion/day, or client, etc.) but the way they blocked us is really poor way.
I hope i've the right to say that i leave TV for greener meadows.
Did you even read the first post in this thread?! https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Why-do-I-see-Commercial-use-suspected-Commercial-...
Teamviewer does not actively force users out of the free program. Submit a ticket at the link below and wait 30 days and your account should be restored. https://www.teamviewer.com/en/support/commercial-use-suspected/
Also your "solution" is not a solution. We don't want to pay for software that we can get for free. The free version of that software does not allow you to interact with administrative programs.
Your original post aggravated me quite a bit as you are assuming that Teamviewer is doing this on purpose. They are not.
hello Xeno,
i'm really not good with english, but i never write in my removed post that i was using a commercial solution. I said that i will pay if it works fine because 5€/month is not so much. And i would do the same thing with TV if it was not so expansive.
So i'm using a FREE solution as the free TV but whitout the commercial use detection.
If it's for non-commercial use, why are you not able to be patient for the ~30 days for the account to be reset to private?
Because my old mother with her old mac will be dead if i wait 30 days to help her to surf on internet and other things.
Because if i wait 30 days, my girlfriend will kill me when i'm not at home and she needs help to find a movie on our NAS.
Is my answers are good enough for you ?
I love how someone recommended a piece of software which the free version can't touch administrative programs (won't let you interact with them)
I don't love you, sorry.
What is an administrative programs ?
My little person only use TV to help family on their computers and to drive my server/NAS from work.
I used to pay or make donation when i used a soft. If it is a problem for you, i'm sorry too ?
Sorry for bad english. Regards.
>>Your original post aggravated me quite a bit as you are assuming that Teamviewer is doing this on purpose. They are not.
>>
Really? How do you know this? It appears your are making assumptions in the same breath you complain about others making assumptions.
There are two possibilities I see.
1. Teamviewer is purposesfully trying to shed some if its free users by, without warning, deactivating software that many of these people have used for years to help their friends and relatives use their computers.
or
2. Teamviewer's commercial-use detection algorithm was written by massively incompetent people who should immediately be encouraged to find other work while Teamviewer attempts to limit the damage of this customer relations fiasco .
But the "fill out the form and sit tight for 30 days" response from Teamviewer strongly suggests to me that everything is going according to plan.
Do you use an email service like Gmail? If tomorrow your email suddenly stopped working, would that be ok too?
You'd get a notice that Gmail thinks you had violated a term of service. Maybe you could fill out a form and wait thirty days for them to reconsider.
Would you just say "ok, I'll happily wait 30 days to send my next email"? Or would you maybe look for a more reliable email service?
Just asking...
@owenegan wrote:>>Your original post aggravated me quite a bit as you are assuming that Teamviewer is doing this on purpose. They are not.
Really? How do you know this? It appears your are making assumptions in the same breath you complain about others making assumptions.
There are two possibilities I see.
1. Teamviewer is purposesfully trying to shed some if its free users by, without warning, deactivating software that many of these people have used for years to help their friends and relatives use their computers.
-Then why would they offer a way out, that people have reported working? Have you thought, perhaps, a fluke was made in the code of the algorythm back in June, causing mass triggers of accounts? From a programming perspective in regards to the size of Teamviewer's infrustructure, that is not easily fixable. It takes time.
@owenegan wrote:2. Teamviewer's commercial-use detection algorithm was written by massively incompetent people who should immediately be encouraged to find other work while Teamviewer attempts to limit the damage of this customer relations fiasco .
-This hasn't always been the case to this degree. Something may have been accidentally changed recently. Accidents happen. There is never a perfect programmer. Talk to any friend that has had a career for a year or more in QA and they'll tell you that.
@owenegan wrote:But the "fill out the form and sit tight for 30 days" response from Teamviewer strongly suggests to me that everything is going according to plan.
Do you use an email service like Gmail? If tomorrow your email suddenly stopped working, would that be ok too?
You'd get a notice that Gmail thinks you had violated a term of service. Maybe you could fill out a form and wait thirty days for them to reconsider.
Would you just say "ok, I'll happily wait 30 days to send my next email"? Or would you maybe look for a more reliable email service?
Just asking...
-I never said it was ok. What I said is that I will wait patiently. I am using a free service. It is never guaranteed to always work. Also you are comparing TV to email as if they are equally important to everyone that uses them. I can guarantee you that TV is not as important to every TV Personal-use user as email is. Some. maybe, yes, but if it's 100% needed every day, then pay for the professional version if it's that useful to you. Pay for the product and show your appreciation for the team that made the software that is required for your day-to-day use. If you continue to rely on free software for day-to-day use, that is folly. Free software always gets the least support and priority. If anyone needs it so bad, then pay for it so that it will continue to work for you as intended, and so you get immediate support when you have an issue.
Could it be that Teamviewer detected the VPN I am using to access my PRIVATE disks in my HOME DESKTOP and from that discovery decided that I was using it in a professional environment?
Because I cannot find any other reason for having decide this situation in only one of my three PERSONAL computers..... :(, btw the only one I use for accesing the other two PERSONAL computers and the only one accessing my PRIVATE VPN...
Regards
Yeah, I know Gmail isn't Teamviewer, and I'm not all grumpypants because my free software went away. Those weren't really my points.
Teamviewer's sudden kicking off thousands of (claimed) non-commercial users was either a business decision, or it wasn't.
They could have sent suspected naughty people a notice that their access would be cut in X days if they couldn't provide evidence of private use. They chose not to do that, but just cut people off.
This move, if intentional, presumably was designed to convert free users to paid ones. Maybe it's a brilliant plan and is working like a charm. But from the point of view of this particular user, the way they pulled the rug out from under folks makes it much less likely any future remote-control-software money of mine will go their way.
In my case, I had just driven home to Canada after installing a computer for a friend in Massachusetts. He's a 65-year-old farmer who kind of thinks the internet = AOL. So, remote access to his computer is direly needed if I am to help him take his first steps with his shiny new Gmail account. So, the sudden Teamviewer banishment isn't the end of the world, but it's gonna be painful talking him through setting up **Third Party Product**.
For what it's worth, **Third Party Product** did a similar thing years ago. They originally offered both free and paid services. Then they decided to eliminate the free option. Did they suddenly accuse people of violating their terms and cut them off without notice? Nope. They announced the decision and allowed their customers time to find another service, or pay for a subscription. Was it ethics, or just the thought that angering thousands of potential customers might be a Bad Idea? Who knows.
Anyway, once I get back to the farmer in Mass and my Aunt's computer in Connecticut, all my puters will then be migrated to the shiny chrome train, so I've mainly moved on. But this sends me emails whenever people post, and much like a car crash, it's hard not to look.
Hello
i have been useing teamviewer for many years Privat, and since last week i get msg that i use it for business but iam not i only use it for privat(my home pc, my laptop, my wifes laptop, my brothers pc and fathers pc)!!!!! and now iam limited 1 min connectionand 10min coldown..help me pls
@owenegan wrote:
Yeah, I know Gmail isn't Teamviewer, and I'm not all grumpypants because my free software went away. Those weren't really my points.
Teamviewer's sudden kicking off thousands of (claimed) non-commercial users was either a business decision, or it wasn't.
- If it wasn't a business decision, it suggests gross incompetence in their detection algorithm.
- If it was a business decision, I feel it was a very poor one. Because...
They could have sent suspected naughty people a notice that their access would be cut in X days if they couldn't provide evidence of private use. They chose not to do that, but just cut people off.
This move, if intentional, presumably was designed to convert free users to paid ones. Maybe it's a brilliant plan and is working like a charm. But from the point of view of this particular user, the way they pulled the rug out from under folks makes it much less likely any future remote-control-software money of mine will go their way.
In my case, I had just driven home to Canada after installing a computer for a friend in Massachusetts. He's a 65-year-old farmer who kind of thinks the internet = AOL. So, remote access to his computer is direly needed if I am to help him take his first steps with his shiny new Gmail account. So, the sudden Teamviewer banishment isn't the end of the world, but it's gonna be painful talking him through setting up **Third Party Product**.
For what it's worth, **Third Party Product** did a similar thing years ago. They originally offered both free and paid services. Then they decided to eliminate the free option. Did they suddenly accuse people of violating their terms and cut them off without notice? Nope. They announced the decision and allowed their customers time to find another service, or pay for a subscription. Was it ethics, or just the thought that angering thousands of potential customers might be a Bad Idea? Who knows.
Anyway, once I get back to the farmer in Mass and my Aunt's computer in Connecticut, all my puters will then be migrated to the shiny chrome train, so I've mainly moved on. But this sends me emails whenever people post, and much like a car crash, it's hard not to look.
My point still remains that I think this was a sudden accident. I doubt that Teamviewer would all of the sudden get an influx of these issues a month and a half ago, but then be willing to return the accounts to normal. The product is nearly $600 a year. I doubt anyone using it for personal use is interested in purchasing the product for anything non-commercial use. Teamviewer I'm sure would realize that nobody is buying the product through this issue, but are waiting for them to fix it or are moving to other services.
You are providing two options, but I see you more stressing the more extreme option over the other, and I can't help but think it is out of spite of not being able to help your friend and Aunt out, which is understandable. But I honestly doubt Teamviewer would make this decision and it not come to light by now. They have clearly stated since that they are not trying to force users to the commercial platform and are willing to fix the account if a ticket submission is made. Sadly the amount of submissions and the fact that they are free accounts means it will take a while.
I'm sorry that this has hurt your ability to help you friends and family. Trust me, it has hurt my ability as well. I do technical support for a living using a different service, but I offer my services for no charge to close friends and family... With Teamviewer unavailable at this point it is making it fairly tough to work on machines with a lot of the options being unuseable.
German Text below:
I completely agree with the previous speakers and my consequence is that I switch to "[edited by moderator]", a pity because TV is actually a good product, but this rip-off is simply unbearable.
Ich bin völlig mit meinen "Vorrednern" einverstanden und meine Konsequenz ist, dass ich zu "[edited by moderator]" wechsle, schade weil TV eigentlich ein gutes Produkt ist, aber diese Abzocke ist einfach unerträglich.
I switch to [edited by moderator]; it is mac, ios, android, window compatible. For my kind of use, i don't see any difference between it and TV. Oh, yes, there is one... no problem of commercial detecting use.
;)