[Update] TeamViewer 13

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

[Update] TeamViewer 13

2017-Q4-TV13-BLG-Community-LinuxHostHeaderImage.pngTeamViewer 13 and TeamViewer 13 Host for Linux

Dear fellow penguins,

it is with great pleasure that today I can announce the availability of TeamViewer 13 for Linux. TeamViewer Host for Linux PCs is now a regular product. It also serves as the foundation for the native TeamViewer 13 (full) for Linux, which we release as a preview today. Highlights:

  • native client, no more Wine
  • native 64 bit packages, no more 32 bit dependencies
  • DEB and RPM repositories for convenient updates

A new Chapter
In vino veritas, but in Qt we trust. For many years, TeamViewer for Linux was based on Wine. The growing user base and demand as well as technical limitations of that approach lead to the decision to start over with a native, Qt-based user interface. The development has been going on for a while now, starting with the Host for Raspberry Pi in 2016 and adding the Host for PC earlier this year. TeamViewer and TeamViewer Host now share most of their code and integrate more seamless into modern desktop environments than ever before, and we will continue to improve the user experience in future updates.

Features & Updates
The TeamViewer preview includes all the features that were already present in the TeamViewer Host: Incoming remote control, incoming file transfer, account assignment as well as DEB and RPM repositories. Additionally this first release includes the Computers & Contacts list - allowing quick access to your servers, colleagues and friends - and, of course, outgoing remote control. The StatusNotifier (tray icon) toggles the Computers & Contacts list on mouse middle-click if the desktop supports it (KDE Plasma: yes, Gnome: no). Obviously, some features are still missing, but we plan to add them soon. You can expect frequent updates via the repository. We are interested to hear from you which ones you think should have priority. Please take the survey.

A Note on Wayland
UbuntuLogin dense2.pngSign In with Xorg instead of WaylandOn Wayland, currently only outgoing remote control and incoming file transfer are supported. If you need incoming remote control, you have to sign in with classic Xorg.

From a developer perspective, we would be more than happy to leave the archaic X11 technology stack behind and jump on the new and shiny Wayland train. However, that is not as simple as it may seem. By design, Wayland does not provide an interface to do remote control (screen capturing, mouse and keyboard emulation). This is to keep the Wayland core lean. The idea is that the compositor provides these interfaces, which could mean that TeamViewer would have to implement different interfaces for every desktop environment we want to support. This is unfortunate, but it's even more unsatisfying that these interfaces are not available yet. The closest to having something useful is Gnome, so it is likely that it will be the first desktop where we can support Wayland. To summarize: Yes, we want Wayland support, just as much as you, and we will work on it. I just wanted to let you know that it's a bit more complicated than 'just make it happen', as it is for the other features.

Final Words
If you are interested in RedHat and CentOS, please also have a look here.
If you are using Gnome and TeamViewer does not appear in the notification area (or tray), you might want to install KStatusNotifierItem/AppIndicator Support plugin. Ubuntu has that extension by default.

As always, packages are available via repositories and on the TeamViewer Linux download page.

 

Survey

Open survey in a new window if you can't see it. (Or disable blockers like uBlockOrigin)

 

All the best,
Daniel

Linux Developer
80 Replies
Posted by tfenster
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13: Raspberry

Any chance for a armhf / Raspberry build of the client? Give thumbs up if you like it!

Posted by sflkj21
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Connecting to a windows machine from linux does not show toolbar.  Thought it was a manjaro/i3 thing, but tried with unbuntu 17.10.  Does anyone have a top-toolbar?  Without one, I can't 'press' ctrl+alt+del to log in to my windows machine.

Where can we submit bugs?

Posted by reb0rn
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

I am asked for password when I try to connect to my machines in my computer contacts, and there is no password they are accesed fine from chrome or windows or linux 12 version

HandshakeClient::Connect: [remote ID: 30, remote connection ID: 0] invalid private key, Errorcode=2
 S RetryHandle::HandleRetry(): Trying resend to 30 failed with error SecureNetwork:4, not retrying (0 retries would remain) BCmd: CC=37 CT=1
 S!! ConfigurationControllerImpl::HandleConfiguration(): error SecureNetwork:4 on configuration request,

Posted by Lamagra
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

On debian buster with kde/plasma

1. Starting/working very good.

2. No toolbar on computers list / can't search on list

3. No toolbar on window when connected to other computers

4. No chat

5. All computers on list are showing as online.

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Posted by lyubomirv
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

No toolbar for me too. Using XUbuntu 17.04 64 bit and connecting to another Linux machine with XUbuntu 16.04 LTS 64 bit.

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Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

remote control toolbar missing

@lyubomirv, @Lamagra, @sflkj21

Guys, please read the post carefully and take the survey. It's all in there.
It's not bugs, it's just not done yet.
Results of the survey will influence the development roadmap.

The remote control toolbar will probably return very soon, and you'll get the update notification with your system updates, via the teamviewer repository.

Thanks for your understanding Robot Happy

Linux Developer
Posted by JustACommonUser
Electron

Re: remote control toolbar missing

Really want to try it out, but I cannot install it in Jessie because it depends on Qt libraries >5.5 while latest version in repos is 5.3.2-4. The host works because it depends on Qt >5.2. Will the final version of the client require Qt 5.5?
Posted by marmo
Henagon

Re: remote control toolbar missing

@DanielStm Thanks for your work on this version!

2 quick questions:

  1. is there any way to send CTRL+ALT+DELETE wihtout the toolbar? I couldnt see it.
  2. Is the repository auto configured on ubuntu when i installed the preview?
    (i see that it is and enabled the preview releases using sudo teamviewer repo tv13)

 

Posted by Lamagra
Digon

Re: remote control toolbar missing


DanielStm wrote:

@lyubomirv, @Lamagra, @sflkj21

Guys, please read the post carefully and take the survey. It's all in there.
It's not bugs, it's just not done yet.
Results of the survey will influence the development roadmap.

The remote control toolbar will probably return very soon, and you'll get the update notification with your system updates, via the teamviewer repository.

Thanks for your understanding Robot Happy


@DanielStm, i'm understand all of the post and i give you my feedback only. (also with survey). You also try to understand us, because without this options version x13 is useless. So if any of our client will update host to version 13 we'll not be able to give them support from linux stations. Of course you did great job with new version without wine but until linux version will not be ready you shoutld't announced new windows version as final. (IMHO).

Posted by ndit
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

First, thanks for the good work.

This is a step in the right direction, and I am vary pleased to see you do this us linux-users.

Even though I wasn’t prepared for the first release to be so much of a "work in progress", I can accept that for a foreseeable future, since I have high hopes this will be so much better than the old wine-implementation. The native TV-app is very snappy and fast, I like what I see.

BUT, until we have a way to send CTRL-ALT-DEL (via bar or other workaround), it’s almost useless for me. 80% of the clients I connect to are windows servers.

Also, at least for me, the interface does not look scaled wright (see attachment), and menu text is invicible

/David
Distro: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
DE: XFCE

screenshot

Posted by Chrissss
Electron

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

I'm running here an uptodate arch linux with gnome. I downloaded the current version of Teamviewer 13 from here and ran the included binary. Teamviewer starts up, but it says I've got no internet connection. I can't activate my license and via "Computer & Kontakte" in the right corner I can't log into my account. Needless to say: My internet connections works fine.

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

Ctrl+Alt+Del, Repos, Debian 8, XFCE ...

@JustACommonUser
Debian 8 is no longer officially supported. Currently, you can enforce installation if all Host dependencies are satisified (and you know how to do it), but:
- It will not open the Computers & Contacts list on Jessie (please do not submit bug reports)
- We will most likely really depend on 5.5 features in 2018, maybe spring, maybe fall. As we don't want to bump dependencies within a major release, we did that now.

@marmo
Your welcome! We enjoy that very much ourselves. Developing with Qt is 90% awesome.
Ctrl-Alt-Del: Unfortunately no, there is not. But...
We hear your feedback, and we are seriously thinking about timely update for toolbar/Ctrl-Alt-Del.
You don't need to change anything with the repo configuration. You just disabled stable and TV14 updates... Robot Sad
Restore the default with: sudo teamviewer repo default - see explanation with teamviewer help.

@ndit Thanks for the flowers, we'll try not to disappoint you Robot Embarassed Heart
Never saw missing texts in the menu. I just tried to reproduce it with my colleague, with Ubuntu+XFCE and Xubuntu 16.04.3. From the style it looks like you actually have Xubuntu? (Yes, there actually seem to be differences). Anyway, we couldn't reproduce it on both.
Can you try to play around, maybe restart (system and/or Gui, close via tray icon), change resolution, DPI, (TeamViewer) language? Also, what is your system language? Please PM me with the results.

Linux Developer
Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

non-installed TAR package, Arch, Gentoo

Hi @Chrissss, thanks for your feedback!

I can confirm that as a bug in the non-installed tar package. Which means, it's currently only functional when installed. Please understand that other things might have priority, but we'll look into it.

What you can do until then:
install the tar-package via ./tv-setup - if you don't want the daemon to run all the time, you can stop/disable it when not needed. (run teamviewer help after installation)

Arch Linux: As you know we don't officially support it, but I assume they will soon pick up TeamViewer 13 and create packages.

Gentoo: speaking of inofficial ports, I was contacted by a Gentoo maintainer and expect they'll have TV13 package soon.

Linux Developer
Posted by reb0rn
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

When i try to connect to computers to my list/contacts I get request for password but there should be no request!

2017/12/04 15:46:32.291 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx S Negotiating session encryption: server handshake received, encryption established with AES key length 256
2017/12/04 15:46:39.132 xxxxxxxxxxxxxx S CGatewaySession[39]::EndSession(): Session to 294266006 ended. Estimated capacity=2936kBit/s, Latency=115ms
2017/12/04 15:46:39.132 12762 xxxxxxxxxxxx S UDP: create udp connection was not successful: UdpHolePuncher shutting down: (*)
2017/12/04 15:46:39.132 12762 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx S! RemoteSession[39]::AddRequestedCarrier(): request carrier UdpToPartner failed!

Posted by andrearvs
Photon

Re: non-installed TAR package, Arch, Gentoo

Hi.

I use Ubuntu 16.04 and I am frustrated.

The toolbar do not appear and I cannot login on my Windows hosts because I cannot do a CRTL + ALT + DEL.

The problem is that I am not a BETA user, to test it. I need a final version working. I have aquire it it for working purpose, not to be a BETA tester.

Do you have the solution? All Ive tried not worked.

Thank you.

Andre

Posted by kammanos
Photon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

 
Posted by exactt
Digon

no CTRL+ALT+DEL = bad joke

Not being able to send CTRL+ALT+DEL is really a bad joke. This way I can't use TV13 at all. I feel kind of stupid now having bought the new license upfront. Please give us anythind to unlock access to Windows systems! Thx

Posted by trekfan1
Trigon

Re: no CTRL+ALT+DEL = bad joke

Read the previous post! This is a preview version, if you need this feature install a Windows virtual machine (under virtualbox/vmware/qemu ecc) and install a windows version of teamviewer else return to version 12

 
Posted by Dusan
Photon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

I have same problem. Without ctrl-alt-del this product is useless. We have premium licence ,we are bit confused and downgrade back to 12 is our way. But how to downgrade our quicksupport modules back to version 12 till ths issue will be sorted out. Please HELP

Posted by Skyr
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

The new release runs fast and smoothly on Debian Testing + KDE.

I agree with others, though, that the ability to send Ctrl+Alt+Del should be top priority on the missing feature list.

Hope we'll get the old toolbar back soon, as I need to switch between different monitors of the remote system, too.

Anyway, I'm very pleased to see that Teamviewer does not forget about the Linux users! Thanks for that!

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

Ctrl+Alt+Del update

Dear @andrearvs, @exactt@Dusan, @Skyr,

we sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused by missing Ctrl+Alt+Del..
I have to admit we completely underestimated the demand for this little detail, just as much as we overestimated the demand for Wayland.
That's why we do this community thing and specifically ask you in the survey which features matter most to you.

We have already decided to do an extraordinary, intermediate update soon, bringing Ctrl+Alt+Del back. A few other details might also see minor improvement.
We are really commited to straighten this out. My word on it.

Daniel

P.S.: @Dusan, I'm not certain what you mean by how to downgrade, but you can always get older versions here. If that doesn't answer you question, I'd recommend to call our support hotline or PM me. Again, sorry for the rough transition.

Linux Developer
Posted by beast-usa
Trigon

Re: Ctrl+Alt+Del update

Yep need that top toolbar "Ctrl+Alt+Del, Restart, File Upload & Multiple Monitors" are what I use all day long. I LOVE NOT seeing recent connections! But with all the computers looking like they are online LOL I have no idea which ones are on or off. LOL Until today I have been running 13 in VM (VB) Windows. It's a work around not the best but it works. Smiley Sad

Thanks for all the great work so glad to see it on native Linux! I'm using Xubuntu 16.04 64bit with lots of tweaks. I don't see any text problems, no connection problems, logged right in and logged right on. Couldn't do anything no Ctrl+Alt+Del or file upload LOL went back the VM.

Not disappointed I upgraded my license at all! I will be waiting happily for the next update!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Posted by GoSane
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

The update look promising. Resizing seems much less buggy. Also the "Del" key works (after so many years). Haven't tried the numbers on Mac machines (which were a PITA) yet.

It seems the arrow keys + home/end don't work (most of them convert to typing a "q")

Missing things for me :

  • Ability to switch between my clients' screens
  • Right click in the contacts list to send an "invitation" to my clients so they only have to click "accept" rather than spelling passwords (difficult for some non-english users). Also ability to edit a computer's properties or to add a new one.

Haven't tested that horrible behaviour in TV12 where it would "steal" the sound/microphone and make skype+TV sessions impossible (sound too low or continuous echo/larsen).

Thanks for working on a native solution for us Linux users and keep up the good work.

 

Posted by Maxxim
Digon

Re: non-installed TAR package, Arch, Gentoo


DanielStm wrote:


[...]

Gentoo: speaking of inofficial ports, I was contacted by a Gentoo maintainer and expect they'll have TV13 package soon.


Gentoo package: https://bugs.gentoo.org/621818

Posted by Bleuzen
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

It does not work with dark themes already.

Here is a screenshot with the Adapta theme on KDE:

image.png

And so it looks with Adapta-Nokto (Dark theme):

image.png

As you can see, there is some text "missing". But it's not missing, I guess it just has a hardcoded color.

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Hey @Bleuzen, thanks for the pointer!
@ndit, are you also on a dark theme? (Which?)

This should be an easy fix.

Linux Developer
Posted by krisives
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Working good for me on Kubuntu 17.10 only gripe is no toolbar to do things like file transfer. I actually prefer the new Qt interface a lot and not having buttons everywhere near the main interface, but I would prefer some way to show a toolbar when I do need to transfer files.

Posted by mfernau
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Beside the CTRL+ALT+ENTF musthave thing I really need three further things to work seriously with TV13 on Linux:

  1. Searchable Computer&Contact List: With over 200 Hosts you really need to search the list with keywords or you need wasted minutes to find the correct host
  2. The name of the connected host in the window title: If you have several parallel sessions open and only see "TeamViewer <3>", "TeamViewer <4>", "TeamViewer <5>" in the title you absolutley lost in space. "where I am?"
  3. Filetransfer is important. Not as important as the other points (at least for me) but indeed somewhat important

I hope the other points gets serious attention too because TV13 currently is really unuseable for me on Linux.

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

@mfernauThe window title should be the simplest, can be done very soon.
Searchable C&C I expect for Q1 2018.
Filetransfer: possible for Q1, but don't pin me down to that.

Linux Developer
Posted by Lamagra
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

It looks that TV13 for linux will be usable not faster than february or march 2018. Maybe better idea will be to give users TV13 in old way with wine until new version will not be compleltly ready? Maybe using wine is not so good like qt but it works for now (with the most importent tools we need).

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

arrow keys


GoSane wrote:

It seems the arrow keys + home/end don't work (most of them convert to typing a "q")

@GoSane, I can not reproduce that. Can you add some details on which systems are involved here?

Linux Developer
Posted by GoSane
Henagon

Re: arrow keys

Sure : Linux controlling MacOS computers. Happenned every time. Controlling Windows seems to work correctly. Tell me if you need more info (and which info).

I'm using Kubuntu 17.10

Posted by ndit
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Well, I stated earlier that 80% of my connections was to windows servers, why ctrl+alt+del was so important (glad to hear you are working hard on releasing a fix for this).

The other 20% of my connections are to QuickSupport clients, who runs the QS-client from my homepage. But the active QS-sessions don't show up in the C&C-list on the linux version.Selection_375.png

 

PS: I don't know if it's expected behaviour, but just FYI, if a client, who is present in my C&C list normally, closes the full version of TW, and starts a QS. I am able to connect to them (but from their normal saved C&C-instance.

Posted by led
Electron

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

The native version runs very fast but I can not enjoy it completely, for start I could not install the deb version in Debian Jessie, I ran from the tar version but without being able to fully visualize the interface, in debian the computers and contacts do not appear and in ubuntu it does but I do not have the Ctrl + Alt + Del option or the file transference option

Posted by mfernau
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

@DanielStm thank you for your reply. Would be good to have this done - until then I need to stay on TV12.

Recording a session to disk is also an important thing, but at least not a blocker for me.

I just discovered an anyoing bug: The window size is oftern shrunk down to a strange size. My resolution is high enough to display many sessions in the natural resolution (2560x1080). But often it happens that TV starts with a smaller window and thus with a shrunk resolution. As there is no easy way to "restore" the session to its natural resolution I often end up in a session with streched or shrunk displays and thus have fuzzy fonts.

Posted by mfernau
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

@Lamagra FullAck!

To have TV13 as a wine version until the native one is useable would not only be nice to have - In my eye its a indispensable thing because we're paying customers who need to work with TV all the day and really need a working and useable tool!

Posted by redwil
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Are there any plans to release a .deb and/or tar.xz versions of the teamviewer-host?

Posted by Maxxim
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13


redwil wrote:

Are there any plans to release a .deb and/or tar.xz versions of the teamviewer-host?


Already available, just check https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/

Posted by Matt-Eastwood
Neutron

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Hello, TeamViewer team! Thanks for the amazing work. I tried TeamViewer 13 today and found that, without the meeting function, it's useless to me any my start-up for now. We were using it because it was the only app I knew of that could share one screen in a multi-screen setup.

(All the others, like Skype or Hangouts, can either share all screens at the same time, or only select open windows).

I really hope the meeting function comes back soon, because until it does, operations in our company are impacted. We're looking to find workarounds in the meantime (we'll probably run the Windows version in a VM or I'll have to turn off my second screen and use Skype).

Posted by SamH_SUQLD
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

The state of TeamViewer 13 for Linux is extremely disappointing. It lacks all but the most basic features, and it seems unlikely that is will reach parity with the Windows version (or even Teamviewer 12 for Linux) any time soon.

I appreciate the work the Linux team is doing to get us a native version, but the fact that it was released missing vital functionality is bizarre, and not in line with the usual high quality products that TeamViewer releases.

Posted by ndit
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

@DanielStm I'm using a dark theme, Greybird, I think it is one of the built in themes with Xubuntu.

Edit: btw, I haven't had any "dark theme related" issues as reported by others. My options window looks as intended 

On my workstation the menues are blank (no text). But dont seem to be theme-related.

 

Posted by ndit
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

btw, are the changelog published somewhare?

Cannot find it

Posted by TeamViewer Staff
TeamViewer Staff

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Dear @SamH_SUQLD,

I apologize for the inconvenience caused by this. We will publish an update before Christmas and include the mostly missed features such as Ctrl-Alt-Del, switch screen and easy access.

@ndit, they are usually located here: https://www.teamviewer.com/download/changelog/
But currently lag a bit behind. However, I write these community articles to give you much more information than is typically included in changelogs. I'll continue to do so and be as transparent about our plans as I can.

Linux Developer
Posted by ndit
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

@DanielStm Ok, thx

Posted by thewho
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Thanks for the open development. I appreciate the communication from the developers to the community Smiley Happy

 

Posted by Ballisto
Henagon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Dear @DanielStm,
thank you very much for the update. I really do look forward to put the Linux TV13 to work.
Although it has been said here before I'd like too express that I greatly appreciate the work of the Teamviewer Linux team, and I think, the native version with Qt is a much better approach than wine was. I'm sure, it is the way to go. I also like the way you (the developers) communicate with us (the customers) directly. Thank you for your prompt replies!

TL;DR
- Subscription customer who's really irritated by the current useless state
- Can't wait for an early Christmas present

However, I also have to agree with @SamH_SUQLD and I'm lacking a better expression. I also think the current state is kind of bizarre.
As brought up by someone else earlier, the TV13 upgrade was forced on me, because some Windows client decided to do the upgrade on its own. I then did the upgrade, only to realize, that our license was only good for Version 12. $800 later, with an upgraded license (I thought it might cure my issues), I'm stuck with the native 13 version.
I understand it's still a preview and for a 'beta' it works pretty good. It connects to all my clients but then I can't send CTRL-ALT-DEL to a windows box because you forgot to add a button for it?! Same thing with the screen switch function... It is bizarre!

What really annoys me, as a paying customer with a subscription is the bombardment of new feature announcements for TV13 during the last months. And I always thought 'iOS screen sharing', 'asset management', 'service case handling', etc, etc. - I don't need those features! I don't need TV13! Now I have it. Now I've paid for it, and now I can't send CTRL-ALT-DEL? How could you miss that?!

Sorry for the long story but I had to get this of my chest. After upgrading, downgrading, upgrading again, I'm now stuck with a Windows laptop for remote support. And I really hate it.

Is there a way for us to get a notification, when a working version is released?

Thanks for reading and Merry Christmas!

Posted by mfernau
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

I totally agree with Ballisto and he just repeated what I already directly told the customer support via mail.

Nothing more to said.
Its just sad for me as a power user. I paid approx 1,7k € for TV13 just to be stuck with this alpha version...

Posted by mfernau
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

Oh - and not to mention that TV sold us features which just aren't there:
https://www.teamviewer.com/de/features/

Like:
- Filetransfer
- Meetings
- Session recording
- Special keys
- etc etc etc

In the end I've rights to demand things I bought with my money...

I think TV needs to deploy a wine TV13 version in the meanwhile like the vesions before. Regardless if this means double development or not. If you want to redesign TV13 from scratch - which we're all really appreciate - It can't be that your customers need to pay for this and needs to be happy with a TV-Feature-Version like what.. Version 1? I really NEED those basic features like filetrandfer etc and to be reliant on a windows VM/Computer isn't very satisfying.. 

Posted by garyg
Digon

Re: [Update] TeamViewer 13

I TOTALLY AGREE! I too am a subscription user,  and rely on the Linux Version to support my clients. v13 for Linux is ALPHA, and since it is, v13 should not have been released for any platform or we should have been provided with the previous solution until this is ready. I was having no work impacting issues with the previous versions, but now My Desktop at the office is unable to function because I do not have the ability to roll back the clients that I support with TeamViewer.  v13 Has no toolbar, so no way to login into a Windows machine unattended and no way to view the additional monitors on the machines, no file transfer capabilities....

I am more than just a little irritated! This is costing me time and as we all know  "TIME=MONEY"

I understand that you desire to move to a native version, but leaving us hanging like this STUPID! Previous versions worked well enough, can we at least get some like that for v13 until you decide to fix this garbage you through out on us! or you could provide us with a button in TV13 to roll back to 12 until this is fixed! 

We need a REAL solution and we need it now!