Oh yes, I was so much better on X11 when app can just capture the screen, no questions asked... If you think that's not fixing a real problem and not even a real step ahead of some other OSes: see this problem on mac It's not because that you have expectations as a user that it's not just because you got used to bad behaviour and design. There is no question that Wayland is far superior than X11, same debate with systemd, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_AIw9bGogo @jelabarre59 wrote: To be fair to the TeamViewer folks, Wayland has been a disaster ever since it was introduced. They have shoved it out the door with only a bare minimum of the functionality X11 has, and mumble feeble excuses that either 1: "You don't need that" or 2: "we can figure that bit out in the next 5 years (or maybe 10)". Wayland has proven to be sorely inadequate to the task it claims to be a drop-in replacement for. Between Wayland, Gnome3, SystemD, etc, it would almost seem like a subversive effort to saddle Linux with all the broken-ness of MSWindows.
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@kode54 wrote: I mean, **bleep**, if they can’t even get Xorg support right with their native client and server, how can they be expected to ever support Wayland? In the end, Wayland / Pipewire should be / will be a lot more straightforward, secure and less hacky than X11. It's maintaining both that sucks. Also, pipewire has "been around" for a bit but it hasn't really made it in any usable form to any major distribution and we'll probably have to wait for Ubuntu 20.04 for companies to consider it sable, so don't hold your breath. Linux is a tiny fraction of the user base, and linux excluding ubuntu LTS is a fraction of that fraction. I really hope that pipewire support in TV comes quickly though :-)
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