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  • xbee2
    xbee2 Posts: 17

    Thank you DemonI81!

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  • Glassdub
    Glassdub Posts: 79 ✭✭

    Yeah but 80 bucks a year minimum.

  • Mike55
    Mike55 Posts: 5

    I'm really sorry, but I'm ending the relationship with VM today. After more than 10 years really a sad event. **Third Party Product** works fine. Thank you for the hint here in the forum. Again: never see you again.

  • tarascon
    tarascon Posts: 14 ✭✭

    How come nobody mentions **third party product**


  • @MykeC wrote:

    I installed TeamViewer on my Linux PC and my Windows 10 Laptop on which I run multiple VirtualBox VMs.  TeamViewer seemed a great way to easily copy files between each VM on separate machines as well as access my desktop from my laptop when I am away from home.

    But now they suspect me of commercial use and keep shutting me down even though I do not use TeamViewer software commercially at all.  I have been submitting my log file to them using their recommended "Commercial Use Form" for about 6 weeks now and they do not reply and I still cannot access my own machines on my own private home network anymore.

    Is there any value to software such as this?  I have been using TeamViewer happily for over 5 years but their own dumb policies are breaking the deal for me.

     


    Even when they reply and grant free access, they do NOT disclose limits are imposed or what the limits are and how they are determined. See the email Team Viewer sent me on July 13, 2018 below:

       
     

    Dear TeamViewer User,
     
    Thank you for getting in touch with us. We are happy to inform you that your TeamViewer account has been reset to “free”. After reviewing your request, we decided that your use case can be qualified as “personal”.
     
    Why was my access to TeamViewer limited?
     
    You were asked to purchase a TeamViewer license because your usage pattern suggested that you were using TeamViewer in a commercial environment. To be able to keep a free version of TeamViewer, we must make sure that commercial users purchase a license. Unfortunately, it can happen that we detect commercial use where this is not the case.
     
    We would like to address the most important issues of the TeamViewer community regarding commercial / personal use.
     
     
    1. “Is TeamViewer cancelling the free usage of its software?”
     
    No. TeamViewer is free for personal use, and we are committed to this remaining so. Personal use means that you are not using TeamViewer for purposes that are either directly or indirectly paid. Commercial use includes providing support to colleagues and clients, working remotely via TeamViewer, monitoring company hardware, etc. Read more about commercial use.
     
     
    2. “I believe blocking personal users from using TeamViewer for free is unethical.”
     
    We believe that providing and receiving help should not be a privilege for those who pay. Therefore we offer a free version of TeamViewer with many features. Implementing a mechanism to detect commercial use is part of our commitment to this idea. We do not target personal users but unfortunately, in some cases, personal users can be affected. We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused and promise to continue to refine this mechanism.
     
     
    3. “What is the motive behind blocking free users?”
     
    We have taken this step because commercial users should not be able to use our free version. This way, we ensure our ability to offer a free version of TeamViewer with great features, performance, and possibilities.
     
    We would like to thank our users who use TeamViewer as intended and help us to provide a free version for our personal users. Our vision is to empower people to help people, and we will always act accordingly.
     
    Kind regards,
    Your TeamViewer Team

     

  • Having experienced repeated commercial use pop ups and link disconnects (even after the 4 week wait to get a response to my ticket assuring me that my account was reset to personal), I too checked out [Removed]. I have remoted into my home computer with TV and [Removed] at the same time, side by side. I actually like the way [Removed]handles multiple monitors better than TV. But I have noticed that every time I do this, the TV remote screen looks much better - sharper, much better contrast, and text is much easier to read. [Removed] works great but the remote screen image is consistently inferior. I don't see any settings to adjust image characteristics. So I still prefer TV but I can't trust it. I got a pop up and disconnect the same day I got an email response that my account was reset to personal. I was remoting in from work, which is probably what triggered the pop ups and disconnects, despite the fact that I made it clear that I often remote into personal computers from work, or a hotel, and was told in the email that this was OK and is still considered personal use.

    So now I am running TV and [Removed] side by side. I prefer TV because the remote screen looks so much better, but I have [Removed] for when TV starts with the pop ups and disconnects. If [Removed]remote screen image looked as good as TV, I would just delete TV and move on. But it doesn't so I am running both and hoping TV will stop the pop ups and disconnects (like the email said).

    Other basic solutions like [Removed] work but not so well when the remote machine has multiple monitors. My main remote computer has 6 displays connected. [Removed] handles this scenario best with a separate tab for each screen. TV has a pull down select which works well but is not as convenient as [Removed]. Chrome tries to show all 6 screens as 1 composite image. The result is text and icons that are too small to read. Just my observations. I want to stay with TV because of the superior remote image quality. But it doesn't matter if you can't connect. I sent in another ticket listing the TV IDs for every computer I access because I think the pop ups and disconnects are ID based, not account based. I am waiting on a resp to my 2nd ticket. In the mean time [Removed] is my backup.

    [Post Edited Due to Community Guidelines]

  • This is unbelievable. Teamviewer is trying to make me pay for personal use. I've been using the software for over 5 years now, for the exact same machine doing the exact same things but after the update it flagged me commerical use. I've submitted multiple tickets with no reply. I'm through with this software that tries to exploit their customers. 

  • I'm having the same issue. I cannot use it on my one pc anymore because its flagged it. It says it will disconnect me after 5 minutes but it kills any session after about 1 minute. Ive been ignored with tickets also.

  • hooners
    hooners Posts: 1

    Identical issue here as well, joining thread for any updates.

  • HelpMe
    HelpMe Posts: 1

    Happening to me to.

    Anyone help?

  • JaviP
    JaviP Posts: 1

    Good morning, I'm using TeamViewer for personal use (connect to home computer) but I skipped the license notice and cut my connection continuously. Is there any way to avoid this?

    Thanks for the attention. Javi.

  • Neels
    Neels Posts: 1

    I use team viewer to logon to my home computer where I work during the night and need that data sometimes at work as well.

    How can team viewer say that that I have used team viewer commercially if I logon to one computer?

    If I logon to 5 - XXXX computers, yes. Bu I do not do that.

    If they had a singel user license where you have access to say 1 or 2 computers, then I would have had that long time ago. The pricing put it byond my reach.

    Was a happy user.....

  • me too!
  • Herach
    Herach Posts: 1

    Hello. I am having the same problem on my PC. Use as Personal but keep asking me to BUY LICENSE. Unistalled and removed PC from my Account and reintalled again but no go. Please help.

    Thanks

  • Me to just warned again after having it cleared, I have a raspberry Pi and A Laptop on my home network. Connected once a week for updates, its now classed as commercial useage. Note if you go through there license advisor, using just 1 user and selecting all other options to NO they want to change you 32Euros a month. Its clear where this bullying is heading.

  • This is total bull **bleep**.

    I understand WHY Teamviewer may have needed to do this, but it's turned into a PRIME example of someone having a good idea and then completely mucking it up in the execution!  There is actually a very non-flattering term for people who do this....

    The problem is the **bleep** algorithm is nailing people who are clearly (by ANY STANDARD) private users.  But it's ONVIOUS that TeamViewer doesn't give a **bleep** about how many people they hurt/distrupt.  So now it's a public relations matter which is going sideways.  Do they really think that PRIVATE users would ever recommend TV to the companies they work for?  Not any more they won't.

    I mean, what is it that prevents people from seeing that their decisions/actions are just stupid?  Well, no matter, happy to use different software to help friends and family - Teamviewer obviously wants us private users GONE.  So be it.

     

     

  • reweiss
    reweiss Posts: 2
    I was detected as "Commercial Use" and filled out the form and explained that I am using Teamviewer to support family members. Someone finally wrote back today and said "After reviewing your request, we decided that your use case can be qualified as “personal”.". However, when I tried to access my desktop upstairs, I am still getting a message that says I have been detected as "commercial use", which I am not. I tried to uninstall and reinstall but still no luck. If my access has been cleared and set as "personal" again, how do I get access back to mine and my parent's desktops? Please let me know. -Randy
  • OzRob
    OzRob Posts: 5

    I managed to submit a ticket 6 weeks ago and started to look around for an idea of how much longer it would take for them to reply to it. Having a quick read it appears that TV is no longer interested so I guess I need to find a replacement. I have never used it for commercial use and it is frustrating that they have a 'free' version that detects false positives so easily. Not a good reflection on the product and if they were smart they would dump the free version.

  • This issue creaped up a week or so ago saying that it has detected commercial usage and will time out in 5 minutes. Not only that it bugs out and ends the session after 10 seconds.

    The only thing I use teamviewer is to change videos from my bed or to upload files from my computerto my octoprint when im downstairs by my 3D printer. I have no idea where it is detecting commercial usage since i've used this software for years without a problem.

    I have no idea how to go about fixing this and will be rather disapointed if I have to end up uninstalling the software.

  • Glassdub
    Glassdub Posts: 79 ✭✭

    **Third Party Product** would be a great alternative but you have to pay to use the clipboard so its kinda as worthless as TV is right now.

  • Glassdub
    Glassdub Posts: 79 ✭✭

    "How come nobody mentions **third party product**"

    Because they are too busy filtering out "third party products" to be bothered with addressing this issue.

  • OzRob
    OzRob Posts: 5

    I need access to a couple of computers at a remote site. The problem with using **Third Party Product** is that you need a public IP. I currently have that (and access to the computers using a different **Third Party Product** application) but I don't trust the ISP not to change their policy. Obviously, if they stop issuing public IPs I will lose access. I trialled a similar product (think berry) and after a while it informed me that the software on the remote computer could not be accessed because the software was not current. That is stupid for software that is designed for remote access.

  • SunnyLo
    SunnyLo Posts: 2

    At first. I appeal at around 30th of Match. Around 4th of April. I checked my mail box to see if there is any reply. But I cannot see anything, so I appealed again. But I still didn't receive a reply NOW. It's about 5 months aready. Anyone can help?

  • This happened to me as well I messaged them through facebook and emailed and they fixed it. Problem is I am now getting another commerical Use message so Im not sure how long the fix lasts.

  • So Im getting a message saying that Im using Teamviewer commercially after it crashed last night. I got this message before at the end of June. I filled in the forms and eventually the fixed the problem. Could this be the result of a Teamviewer version update? Has anyone else had this problem again? Im only using Teamviewer to access my media center.

  • reweiss
    reweiss Posts: 2
    UPDATE: I'm not sure if Teamviewer saw this post or from when I resubmitted the "Commercial Use" form, but they contacted me via email this morning and fixed the issue. Thank you to the support team for resolving this second issue so quickly.
  • Matt3
    Matt3 Posts: 1

    I have twice now gone through the process to request my account be set as free after getting the 5 minute warning issues.  Twice I have recieved an email from team viewer saying my account has been confirmed as free, however everytime I try to connect I still get the 5 minute warning and actually get disconnected in less than a minute.

    I have tried logging out, restarting the device etc but to no avail - is there anything I can do to make the free licence take effect?

    Should I just look for an alternative to TV (if so please recommend!)

  • That’s great ? I can only hope they will fix mine quickly. I just hope they fix this bug that incorrectly detects commercial usage for people using tv privately.

  • I am running into the same issue, where did you email them to get this resolved? I saw that opening support tickets is only for commercial licenses.

  • SJ1965
    SJ1965 Posts: 1

    I do have exactly the same issue. Never used it commercially. Only between 2 PC, Win 10 Pro.