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  • I would look for another product. The TV Support team isn't helpful 

  • yes, look in my previous no machine reply.

  • I think there is more behind the WHY this is happening, and I doubt TV will ever disclose the real reason... It would be nice if an TV admin would step in and reassure the community.
    The reality is, that the free users are slowly migrating to alternatives and TV don’t seems to be bothered by that, since the revenue is the real driver here (not the free version).
    Unfortunately, the same thing will happen to the alternative solution. Once the number of users reach a certain volume and a smart cookie in management says Hey! why all these free users, lets force pay and make $$$.


    Good luck to you all

  • Hello!

    I use teamvier from time to time (~1 time in a month) to help friends or parents with computer. Today teamviewer said that I user it for commercial purpose and demands pay for license.
    If I try to connect to somebody, Teamviewer block connection after 10 seconds.
    Why did this happen? Is there a way to remove this kind of ban?


  • @Natascha wrote:

    Hi there, 

    Thank you for your posts. 

    Can you please read the following article and fill in the form to request the unblock of your ID. 
    Why do I see 'Commercial use suspected' / 'Commercial use detected'/mykfcexperience

    Please be aware that the unblock is valid for the TeamViewer ID you submitted via the form and not for your TeamViewer Account. Please submit a separate form per each TeamViewer ID.

    Thank you in advance and have a great weekend. 

    All the best,
    Natascha


    Love it thank for the valuable information…

  • TonyaG
    TonyaG Posts: 6

    @Finnyfo wrote:

    No machine seems to escape any commercial use check. I've given up submitting forms to Teamviewer and gone with the alternative.



    That's probably what they want - (for us to give up). This is their way of getting rid of FREE TV users without actually coming right out and telling us so. A different product that I was using a few years ago that starts with the letter L did just that. They didn't beat around the bush about it like TV is by making you think that they think you're using it comercially etc. They apparently want us to give up. They are obviously trying to annoy us to death until we pay or move on to another product.

  • JDTV
    JDTV Posts: 1

    I am having the exact same problem and submitting the IDs of the computers I am remoting into, for which I have received responses from TeamViewer that they were reset to "free", DOES NOT solve the problem when logging into them from my work computer using the Team Viewer Chrome plugin. If there is no solution for this use case then I will need to find another product to use to remote into my families computers to help them with windows updates, antivirus, troubleshooting etc. I can not use the TeamViewer client on my work machine as it is blocked by the administrator, so my only option is to use the Chrome plugin when my family needs computer help when I am at work. VERY frustrating and it has been going on for WEEKS with no end in sight. I have filled out the form to get my free access reset multiple times and have emailed TV directly and have received NO RESPONSE.

     Sigh...

     

  • I have the same problem.  It started this week.  I uninstalled and reinstalled.  Even tried an older version.  I also created a new user.  Still times me out

  • I am a private retired individual who uses TeamViewer free version to help my alert, intelligent, and not particularly tech savvy 94-year old mother with her computer issues. I cannot do that with the 5 minute (more like 1 minute) time out I just started getting. What is the use of 1 minute? What is the use of 5 minutes? It has taken me HOURS to solve a problem that I have to see to fix, and sometimes interact with her on the phone at the same time. 

    I have loved TeamViewer for allowing me to support my Mom. I am not happy about the change that made this tool unuseable. HELP.

  • danteafk
    danteafk Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Did anyone get a response back after filling out the form? How long does it take? I send it like 3 months ago and still nothing.

  • mencik
    mencik Posts: 4

    Nope. It's all a scam to get us to pay for a license, just like a competing product did a number of years ago.

  • I'm sadly giving up on TeamViewer.  I just got off the phone with tech support, and they changed their algorhythm for identiying "commercial use".  And it now includes accessing from a non-residential location - i.e., so I can't even use my laptop from work to access my home computers?  Or my elderly mothers?

    I'm not unwilling to pay a fair price. But when the options are:

    1) Free, but with restrictions that make it unusable, or

    2) $500/year

    That's nuts - [removed per Community Guidelines]

    When will TV just say that free is GONE, and offer a reasonable price for private, non tax-deductible use?

     

  • ikelly
    ikelly Posts: 1

    I just downloaded TeamViewer 14 for two different computers, one which is a laptop. And the other being a desktop. When I test to check the connectivity I get an error message stating: The trial license of your connection partner has expired. As your connection partner uses TeamViewer commercially, either one of you (one of the connections partners) needs a valid TeamViewer license". I never purchased a license for TeamViewer, I am using this non-commercially. It is simply to check either one of the computers remotely, if I were to forget something on my desktop and need it to display on my laptop I can't in this situation. PLEASE GET THIS FIXED!!!! 

  • I've submitted a request to get this removed. Still have not had this reversed. I hate to look into another RD application, but it seems like that's my only option at this point when I'm modifying something with my home network or dedicated server for 7 Days to Die/Ark.

    I'll give it another week. If it's not reverted by then, I'll look for greener pastures. I don't want to think about it that way, but I'll have no choice.

  • Steve-in-FL
    Steve-in-FL Posts: 27 ✭✭

    It's been many pages since I wrote this response, so I'll update it and do it again for some newcomers. If you learn something, great. If you already know all this, well, I tried.

    @JDTV
    <<...submitting the IDs of the computers I am remoting into, for which I have received responses from TeamViewer that they were reset to "free", DOES NOT solve the problem when logging into them from my work computer>>
    According to TeamViewer, using the product from a work environment is considered commercial. Same as logging on from a school environment or any environment in which any person receives compensation. You may not be making money on the usage, but it violates their new rules. So they may have unblocked you, then, when you used it from work, re-blocked you. See below for other info that may help you.

    @danteafk
    <<Did anyone get a response back after filling out the form?>> Sometimes, but much more often "no." See below for other info that may help you.

    Here is one positive experience:

    I filled in the online form for each of my 13 IDs. They unblocked 12 of those IDs within a few days. The 13th was still blocked. I filled in the online form again with no results. Then I received an email asking me to fill in the "declaration of private use" form. I did so and listed the 13th ID (even though the form doesn't ask for the ID at all). That 13th ID was unblocked within 24 hours.

    Note that you have to submit the first form for each ID you have. Each TeamViewer transaction has two sides, each of which has an associated ID. So you have to submit a separate form for each ID. I submitted an online form for each ID I have and on the form listed all of the other IDs, so everything could be cross-referenced, if necessary. I showed the name assigned to each of the IDs. For each ID that "looked" commercial, for example DATASERVER, I explained that it was used only in my home and for a specific, non-commercial purpose. When they asked for the "declaration of private use" form, I also listed the ID and the name assigned. That's it.

    All I can say is that it worked for me. Other people have not been so lucky, with no action of any kind in response to their forms. Can't say why.

    I consider the unblocking a response, so I was not unhappy that they didn't write me an email when they did that. It's not good public relations, but my concern was unblocking - I consider that the important part of the response. In fact, the only email I did receive, was the one that said I needed to fill in the Declaration of Private Use. The response I got for that one was, again, unblocking, but no email.

    This page has general information about this situation:

    https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/Why-do-I-see-Commercial-use-suspected-Commercial-use-detected/ta-p/5265

    Their official explanation for what is private vs what is commercial is:

    https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Knowledge-Base/How-exactly-is-quot-personal-use-quot-defined/ta-p/4712

    Some people have called this a scam, but I think it's a very inept attempt to get "commercial" users to pay or drop out. But I know that the system is unclear, appears to be arbitrary and is inconsistent. They are **bleep**ing off a lot of people, when a simple explanation would probably have been sufficient. If they can't afford to give away free services, well, we all would have grumbled but accepted it.

    There may be a secondary reason related to their attempt to take the company public (German IPO), pointed out by another forum user. They want the financial numbers to look good. For each ID that TeamViewer has registered, TV tracks when that ID is logged on. When the ID is logged on, it updates the dashboards of all other users that list that ID. That process could be utilizing a lot of TV internal resources, and this effort is an attempt to lower the number of users who do not pay, by either shifting them to paid licenses or dropping out all together. Unless someone knows someone inside TV, we'll never know.

    Good luck.

  • musicreporter
    musicreporter Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Save yourself some time and start looking now

    If you have not read all the messages here, you will eventually learn the frustration and aimless point of waiting.

  • Thanks for the heads up.

    I'll be looking for something new. Too bad that they don't care about the people who have been using them for quite some time and have suggested them to their places of employment which now use commecial licenses.

    **bleep** shame.

  • The server in question, which could be the only thing I could think of, isn't a version of Ubuntu, Windows Server, or any other such thing. Not even a client running a VM. It's a W8 machine running a Dedicated Server that hosts P2P Client Access via open ports.

    This is not labeled as a "Server" under their ToS as it's not something that I'm remoting into. I'm using this to change the Dedicated Server (Video Game) config files from a remote computer on my network.

    Either way, if this is what flagged me, this makes no sense, as all other machines on my network are okay, and the machine in question is a W10 device.

    I appreciate you trying to clarify the issue, but your clarification doesn't apply in this situation as this situation doesn't need clarification.

    The device has been wrongfully flagged. 
    It is a W10 machine.
    I have filled out the form and have given the company over 2 weeks to resolve the issue.
    It is still not resolved.

    Seeing the amount of dissatisfied people experiencing the same exact problem, I'm going to take another user's advice and move on to another RD Application.

    Doesn't matter if it's free or not to be honest. As long as the prices aren't extortionate, I'll pay the price.

    If TeamViewer had personal licenses for $50/yr, I'd gladly pay that.
    No way am I going to pay $500/yr when I'm not using the application commercially.

  • Jholc
    Jholc Posts: 1

    Since I moved into a new house I've found that my teamviewer is telling me that I'm on a coprorate network and that I need to upgrade my license. Can anyeone help me out with this? I use Teamviewer to help my family members when they have issues. 

  • Having the same issue. I think the issue first started when I connected my phone to my works wifi network. 

    Will be contacting support un less anyone else has any suggestions. 

  • mp52nv
    mp52nv Posts: 1
    I'm getting this issue as well.. I'm suspecting my fast internet connection... I'm a home user and have a 100mb line and get this all the time
  • Steve-in-FL
    Steve-in-FL Posts: 27 ✭✭

    @mp52nv
    @D0TheMath
    @Jholc



    Read the latest 15-or-so posts to get some information about how this works. Judging from the experience of others on this forum, you have a small chance of success. But you could be one of the lucky ones.

    Cheers.

  • Ugh123
    Ugh123 Posts: 1
    All of a sudden tonight I started getting kicked off TEAMVIEWER because it suspected “commercial” usage. This was after maybe 5 minutes. Have used for years without hassle, a few times a year. What changed?

    BTW I’m happy to pay them something, maybe $5 a month as I think it’s a great program. I can’t afford much more than that.
  • just make a new account and you avoid having them reset it.. Its been a month and still no word on my reset

  • Bob357
    Bob357 Posts: 5

    Are Teamviewer actively trying to drive away all free users so they can simply go 100% paid ?

  • My **bleep** I will print and post a form an especially not to another country. TeamViewer doesn't trust that I use it for private matters and add this faulty detection. Uninstall and forget is the way I will go.

  • I just installed **Third Party Product**. It works better

  • I've just started getting the same issue today. what's going on?

  • Probably so.... they seem to be too busy getting the free non-commercial users bumped, like me!

  • Hi, I ocaisionally use Teamviever to help my family abroad with basic pc issues, and it suddenly started to disconnect me and showing message about a commercial use suspicion. How to remove that? I would be happy to buy a license but £30 for a month for two-three times usage is way too much. What can I do? How this suspicion can be removed? Regards, Greg.

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